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Shading with a color packer or packing color with a shader

I am an apprentice at a shop in chicago and im in the proces of getting my equipment toguether.. . The thing is im in a budget . I own a fk irons proton liner i bought used. And a spektra halo but my mentor doesnt want to let me use it until i learn to use coils. So i need a second coil machine but i dont know what would work better getting a shader machine and crank it up when i want to pack in color or get a color packer and lower de voltage when i want to do shading.. specially with fk irons machines.. i would appreciate any feedback from you guys.


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RE:Shading with a color packer or packing color with a shader

They're different machines that act different from each other. That being said if I had to choose to attempt both actions with one machine I guess it would have to be a shader. I can layer color in with a shader a lot easier than trying to lay soft shades in with a packing machine.
The biggest difference is in how the machine hits. Speed is pretty close, as with stroke. But you want your shader hitting nice and soft so you can lay in those soft shades without causing a bunch of trauma to the skin. Your color packer on the other hand should have a long punchy stroke that hits relatively hard compared to your other machines. This way you can "pack" the color in and put the pigment in with one pass.

I can't imagine being limited to only 2 machines, I keep 15-20 on hand all the time but I am a little OCD lol. But I guess it really boils down to what style of tattooing your going to do the most of. If your doing a lot of say American traditional, or heavy color work you might actually be better just tweaking your liner a little, and using it to run lines and shade, just adjust speed and volts accordingly, and set the other one up with a heavy A bar and make it your color packer.
If your doing a lot of black & grey, and smooth blended colors then just layer your colors in with your shader until you can get a third machine.

But definitely plan for at least a third machine in your near future. If your going to be a serious artist you should never leave home without at least 5-6 machines minimum. You don't need 20 like me, but you do need more than 2.

If your really hard up and can provide proof of BBP certification I can hook you up with a machine or 2 on the cheap if cost is the thing holding you back.
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RE:Shading with a color packer or packing color with a shader

Thanks Sikki Nixx.. it really helps a lot... i just picked up a shader . And i want to use it on me as soon as i got some time.. i will purchase more machines down the road. Youre right . I need to have back up machines.. as for now. I have an fk proton liner, a pyro shader and a spektra i got them all used from different artists. I couldnt afford them brand new.. i will probably have them resprung in the near future but for now i will practice with what i have and hopefully i get it right.. im not thinking in using the spektra until i understand my coils completely..
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RE:Shading with a color packer or packing color with a shader

Thanks Sikki Nixx.. it really helps a lot... i just picked up a shader . And i want to use it on me as soon as i got some time.. i will purchase more machines down the road. Youre right . I need to have back up machines.. as for now. I have an fk proton liner, a pyro shader and a spektra i got them all used from different artists. I couldnt afford them brand new.. i will probably have them resprung in the near future but for now i will practice with what i have and hopefully i get it right.. im not thinking in using the spektra until i understand my coils completely..
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